Female Rufous whistler?

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Poida84
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Female Rufous whistler?

is this female Rufous Whistler or something else?

or even 2 completley different birds? both have nest seperate nearby

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First photo looks to be Female Rufous Whistler, second possible immature Grey Shrike-Thrush with hint of tan eyebrow? 

Any other photos?

Poida84
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Saddly no bird flew off fast then when i thought it was same bird that camback on same tree but different branch. relised its different... also not sure what it is. the book i use has bird identification but always of males only no juviniles or female pictures. this was the other bird.  I will be going back next week several times so hopefully get better picture. 

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