Looking for a Camera any Suggestions?

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Devster
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Looking for a Camera any Suggestions?

Hi guys, shortly I will be in the hunt for a new camera. I will have about $3k to spend as I am selling a car. I currently only have a Sony HX60 but need something with a much better zoom etc.

I saw the posts on the Tameron & that excited me although I am only new to photography and still learning (through forums, utube, trial & error etc)

What would you guys suggest and from where?

While I love Ebay, I don't like getting this sort of thing from there as sometimes you never know what you will get & the after sales service in non existant.

Love to hear your suggestions so I can do some research before I buy.

Cheers 

Devster

Reflex
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First of all I agree with you about the Ebay after sales service 100%. It is about as good as an ashtray on a motorbike. Fortunately over the years I have only ever had the one occassion to test it out. Paypal however is a great sytem and offers good protection and aftersales service, so I wouldn't rule out Ebay. The problem is here in Australia we pay through the nose for just about everything and photographic equipment is no exception. 

I have bought all of my equipment for photography from overseas particularly USA and all second hand apart from my camera body.

Check out a web site http://www.staticice.com.au/ for pricing before you do decide to buy anything new.

As for what to buy, there has already been a thread with some good advice about this here  http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/forum/what-buy

In my opinion, I'd buy a good body and then look for a good second hand lens and in my experience, for birds there just never seems to be enough focal length for me. Good luck. 

Samford Valley Qld.

Devster
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Thanks Reflex I will check out the links.

Devster

Annie W
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Whether you purchase locally or o/seas will all boil down to who you, personally, feel comfortable passing on your hard earned $$'s to Devster.  I'm all for supporting local business and do, but for larger purchases I too purchased o/seas, as Reflex has mentioned.  I have used Discount Digital Photographics & Digital Rev from time to time and not had any problems whatsoever - although the internet is filled with horror stories about some o/seas retailers in regards to no after sales service etc, so I can only base this example on my own personal positive experiences with both (that is a disclaimer of sorts laugh).  I think dd photographics are Aus based, and import from o/seas from memory.

As one suggestion, perhaps do a bit of research yourself with your budget in mind, amongst three or four of the more well know brands out there (Canon, Nikon, Sony etc), find a forum with someone using that equipment so you can perhaps view the possibilities/performance, and then start to narrow it down.  Don't discount pre-loved (sounds so much better than second hand laugh) older models, as a lot of the older so-called outdated models are still up there with the newer releases, in some cases even better imo.  My suggestion would also be to settle on an older or less expensive camera body, and use the savings on that to go towards the best lens you can afford instead.  There are only so many bells and whistles you need on your camera and the difference between decent glass (lens) and bad will make a whole lot more of a difference to your shots than the camera body you choose.

NW Tasmania

sparrow
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I agree with evrything Anne has said there are a few grey market supliers based in Australia but be mindful that some of the major repairers wont even look at grey market cameras even if your willing to pay for repairs.

You can get some real bargans going "pre loved" on eBay and I know few that have bought cameras this way ,I would stick with the big boys Canon and Nikon and look at their high end cameras which are made to stand the everyday use of pro's who are not always gentle on their gear ,you can get some really good older ones for less than the cost of an entry level camera.

Devster
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Thanks guys. I think I am going to go with a Canon D70 with a Tamron 150mm-600mm lense.

I will obviously be getting a smaller lense as well. 

All up it will cost about $3k. I have looked at Benleys Camera House and they have a $150 cash back and have been very helpful.

The Tamrons arn't in stock but they are expecting about 15 in the few weeks, which gives me time to sell my car.

If you know of any cheaper places I'm open for suggestions.

BabyBirdwatcher
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Hi might I suggest you get the canon 400 f5.6l prime lens. I have attatched a photographer's page who has used this lens with a canon 7d, it is amazing, this lens is hands down one of the best birdphotography lens. Despite not having the extra reach of the 600mm it is alot sharper and with the right technique you will still get stunning shots. You need to know your subject, be patient and determined

http://www.duadepaton.com/

Cheers Jayden

Devster
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BabyBirdwatcher wrote:

Hi might I suggest you get the canon 400 f5.6l prime lens. I have attatched a photographer's page who has used this lens with a canon 7d, it is amazing, this lens is hands down one of the best birdphotography lens. Despite not having the extra reach of the 600mm it is alot sharper and with the right technique you will still get stunning shots. You need to know your subject, be patient and determined

http://www.duadepaton.com/

Cheers Jayden

Thanks Jayden, that does give me something else to consider. The extra $500 and 200mm less focal length are a concern to me though. I have read a number of articles on the Tamron (Some on this site) and the quiet AF is also another advantage that gets mentioned alot and appeals to me. I have a bit of time so I will do some more research. Thanks for the suggestion.

Devster

Rick N
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Hi Devster,

Don't usually weigh into these discussions but what the hellsmiley

I don't believe the kit you descibe is good value for 3k and think your money could be better spent.

For example, and I own Nikon gear but I'm sure any knowledgable Canon or other person could put forward a similar story.

3k would get you a Full frame D610, 300/f4 prime plus 1.4 teleconverter from any of the major online stores.

In my opinion this would be a far superior birding outfit.

I have bought numerous cameras and lenses online and not had a problem in fact the only problem I have had was

when sending my D600 body ,bought from a local dealer, in for repairs and it took 2 months to get it back for a simple

sensor swab that I could have done myself but would have voided the warranty.

Also totally agree with Annie that the first priority should be good glass, bodies come and go.

Cheers

Reflex
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Rick N wrote:

Hi Devster,

Don't usually weigh into these discussions but what the hellsmiley

I don't believe the kit you descibe is good value for 3k and think your money could be better spent.

For example, and I own Nikon gear but I'm sure any knowledgable Canon or other person could put forward a similar story.

3k would get you a Full frame D610, 300/f4 prime plus 1.4 teleconverter from any of the major online stores.

In my opinion this would be a far superior birding outfit.

I have bought numerous cameras and lenses online and not had a problem in fact the only problem I have had was

when sending my D600 body ,bought from a local dealer, in for repairs and it took 2 months to get it back for a simple

sensor swab that I could have done myself but would have voided the warranty.

Also totally agree with Annie that the first priority should be good glass, bodies come and go.

Cheers

 I agree and have had a bit of a look on Ebay for good second hand full-frame bodies this morning.

I think I would be going for a full-frame body.

 Edit..It should also be noted that Canon's EF-S lenses won't work at all on the company's full frame cameras.

Samford Valley Qld.

BabyBirdwatcher
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Full frame doesn't get you as close to the bird but is often superior in other areas e.g. ISO and sensor. Honestly for 3k as I have said before 44f5.6 is better than the tamron and the 300f4 with 1.4. You only miss out on 20mm if you get the canon 400 compared to nikon 400 w 1.4 tc. I don't know if I'll get my message through but if you look at those photos on DUade's gallery it is clear to see.

Rick N
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BabyBirdwatcher wrote:

Full frame doesn't get you as close to the bird but is often superior in other areas e.g. ISO and sensor. Honestly for 3k as I have said before 44f5.6 is better than the tamron and the 300f4 with 1.4. You only miss out on 20mm if you get the canon 400 compared to nikon 400 w 1.4 tc. I don't know if I'll get my message through but if you look at those photos on DUade's gallery it is clear to see.

Absolutely agree on the 400 f5.6 being a great lens, with 6D, will still be around the money.

One thing I found while researching a second body is that you sometimes have to dig deep or use the camera to find all the issues. For example I was looking at a D7100 as a second body, crop sensor. Everything was great until trying to take birds in flight. The buffer filled after 4 shots and that was the end of it for me, everything else was good. For someone not interested in BIF, or not shooting raw,then would be a good body.

Good luck Devster with a difficult decisionsmiley

Annie W
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Rick N wrote:

Absolutely agree on the 400 f5.6 being a great lens, with 6D, will still be around the money.

One thing I found while researching a second body is that you sometimes have to dig deep or use the camera to find all the issues. For example I was looking at a D7100 as a second body, crop sensor. Everything was great until trying to take birds in flight. The buffer filled after 4 shots and that was the end of it for me, everything else was good. For someone not interested in BIF, or not shooting raw,then would be a good body.

Good luck Devster with a difficult decisionsmiley

What was the SD card's write speed Rick, it could also be that the buffer was limited by that?  I have the D7100 as a backup and haven't noticed any problems with the buffer filling on mine, not yet anyway smiley

Edited:  Buffer, not Bugger, hahaha, although the buffer can be a bugger at times wink

NW Tasmania

Annie W
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Sorry Devster, not meaning to hijack your thread going off on a tangent about memory cards, although that is something to consider when you choose your gear too, the faster the better, without breaking the bank that is!

NW Tasmania

Rick N
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AnnieJ wrote:
Rick N wrote:

Absolutely agree on the 400 f5.6 being a great lens, with 6D, will still be around the money.

One thing I found while researching a second body is that you sometimes have to dig deep or use the camera to find all the issues. For example I was looking at a D7100 as a second body, crop sensor. Everything was great until trying to take birds in flight. The buffer filled after 4 shots and that was the end of it for me, everything else was good. For someone not interested in BIF, or not shooting raw,then would be a good body.

Good luck Devster with a difficult decisionsmiley

What was the SD card's write speed Rick, it could also be that the buffer was limited by that?  I have the D7100 as a backup and haven't noticed any problems with the buffer filling on mine, not yet anyway smiley

Edited:  Buffer, not Bugger, hahaha, although the buffer can be a bugger at times wink

Me too, Sorry Devster for the hijacksmiley Annie, was fast 95mb/s. Did some tests against the D600 and massive difference.

Will PM you about this as if it wasn't for the buffer fill I would get one.

Annie W
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O.k. after looking at what I have in my D800 & what I have in my D7100, I am now completely confused as they are different brands and slightly different speed numbering systems on them - the D7100 SD card is 100x (Lexar), whereas the other (Sandisk) has 95MB/S.  

Then to complicate it further the SD Assoc website (if I'm understanding it correctly) tells me I have the slower card in my D7100.  Aaargh, I give up, I have no business going into places that only confuse me, lol.  One thing I did finally understand a bit better, is that little number in a circle on the SD card (usually a 2, 4, 6 or 10), that's the "Speed Class", which "indicates minimum writing performance"....so I guess that makes a difference to the speed of the card too.

https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/

  Yes, by all means PM me for sure. yes  In the meantime, apologies to Devster again, and I think I will go back to doing what I know a little better, pressing the button on the black picture taking device thing laugh

NW Tasmania

Reflex
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Rick N wrote:
AnnieJ wrote:Rick N wrote:

Absolutely agree on the 400 f5.6 being a great lens, with 6D, will still be around the money.

One thing I found while researching a second body is that you sometimes have to dig deep or use the camera to find all the issues. For example I was looking at a D7100 as a second body, crop sensor. Everything was great until trying to take birds in flight. The buffer filled after 4 shots and that was the end of it for me, everything else was good. For someone not interested in BIF, or not shooting raw,then would be a good body.

Good luck Devster with a difficult decisionsmiley

What was the SD card's write speed Rick, it could also be that the buffer was limited by that?  I have the D7100 as a backup and haven't noticed any problems with the buffer filling on mine, not yet anyway smiley

Edited:  Buffer, not Bugger, hahaha, although the buffer can be a bugger at times wink

Me too, Sorry Devster for the hijacksmiley Annie, was fast 95mb/s. Did some tests against the D600 and massive difference.

Will PM you about this as if it wasn't for the buffer fill I would get one.

 So are you saying that the D7100 was the problem not the card?

Samford Valley Qld.

Rick N
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Reflex,

Yes, the problem is the buffer size of the camera. Using a 95mb card instead of a 80mb card made very little difference.

In my testing with the D600 and the D7100 using the fastest class ten 95mb card resulted in maybe a one frame improvement over a class 10 80mb card before buffer fill.

Reflex
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Rick N wrote:

Reflex,

Yes, the problem is the buffer size of the camera. Using a 95mb card instead of a 80mb card made very little difference.

In my testing with the D600 and the D7100 using the fastest class ten 95mb card resulted in maybe a one frame improvement over a class 10 80mb card before buffer fill.

 I just bought another memory card today (off to Heron Island for a week next week) and on the back of the packet it has, "Up to 30MB/s transfer speed; write speed lower. Based on internal testing, performance may be lower depending on host device." which makes sense now after reading about your experience.

Samford Valley Qld.

Annie W
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I believe you were on the money to begin with Rick, small buffer in the D7xxx series.

Just for interest, read through a few more sites and if I understand it correctly, the speed noted on most cards (i.e.Sandisk Extreme PRO 95 MB/s SDHC1 class 10) is the potential upload speed at which the card can upload to your PC, not the write speed.  Even the write speed they have for some on-line is not the sustained shot to card write speed, more just a potential one.  The D7xxx record in bursts, and clear in bursts, so a buffer fill (due to a smallish buffer) is more than likely the real issue, as you said at the start Rick. laugh  From that logic suggests a card could have the write speed of Superman but if the buffer is small/slow....

Tested out the D7100 a little more this arvo, and not surprisingly, the best sustained write speeds with continuous burst were not shot in RAW.  This is what I got just as a rough/quick test:

DX RAW - 6 continuous burst, then lag/slowdown, with an up to 6 second delay until you could do the next 6 burst

1.3 RAW - 7 burst, 4 second delay until next 7 continuous burst

DX Jpeg fine - 16 burst, then lag/slowdown, less than 3 sec delay until you could do next 16 continuous burst

1.3 Jpeg fine - 21 continuous burst, then lag/slowdown, less than 2 second delay until the next 21 continuous burst

Of course with the various delays while the buffer was clearing, you could still take shots just not the "full" burst like you could at the start.  That surprised and disappointed me - a 6 second delay (in RAW) until the buffer was cleared and the next full burst could be done is birdy bye bye time, opp missed. sad

So, perhaps the D7100 not the best beast for you Devster particularly for BIF as Rick said.  

NW Tasmania

Canonguy
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Devster

Don't buy a third-party lens. Please believe me you won't get the same high-performance as you would with a proper telephoto lens such as a Canon 400/5.6L USM as suggested by Babybirdwatcher. I have met Duade and while he is no friend of mine he has used his 400/5.6 very well and gets/got awesome shots with it. At 600mm with your Tamron you will not have fast AF at all and a 70D body is not that great either in my opinion.

I have only ever bought one new DSLR, a 30D when they first came into Australia in 2006. I don't think I'd ever buy a new camera again, they're worse than cars. I bought both my 1D pro bodies (and my 500/4L IS USM lens) all used on E-bay for a fraction of their original new price (ok I only saved 20% on the lens vs new) and NEVER so far had ANY issues with ANY of the used gear I bought. Lucky? Don't think so, I bought from sellers that had good feedback so I knew I wasn't going to get screwed.

My 1DMkIIn I bought for $1,400 and while it was seven years old at the time, it was used three times and had taken less than 2,000 shots all up. For a camera that has a shutter rated to at least 200,000 actuations, it was the deal of the century and it was brand new in the box practically and it is a professional DSLR body. Now before people start talking megapixel this, megapixel that, I am happy with it, it is built like a tank, I dropped it, broke it and it still works as good as new, because it is built like a freaking tank. And just because it is "only" 8.2 megapixels, it is easily capable of taking images good enough to blow up as big as one wants A1? No problem. Why? Because I only use the BEST possible glass out there!!!!

Glass makes ALL the difference.

I'd even suggest you find a good condition used 7D. Old it may be, a lot of folks swear by that. I just cannot stand APS-C sensor cameras. The image quality is nowhere near like the APS-H (1.3x) or full frame sensors.

Talking about buffer, my 1DMkIIn can take 20-24 RAW files in a sequence at 8.5 frames per second, my1DMkIII can take 24-30 RAW files (depending on some camera settings like ISO, highlight preservation CF activated etc) at 10 frames per second. Not much beats that, especially if you use really fast transfer rate CF cards. Note I don't mention jpegs, as I don't use them. Although I think you cannot fill up the buffer at all with jpegs.

Lachlan
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Canonguy, I think you're being overly critical of third party equipment. Most third party equipment is close to or equal to its counterparts from named brands, and for a lesser price. It's ludicrous to compare the Sigma and Canon 500mm lenses for example- the Sigma is half the price of the Canon. They're different market completely. Similar story with comparing the Sigma zooms to the Canon telephoto and superzoom lenses. Plus by all accounts the new Tamron is a stellar zoom lens. I would hope Devster doesn't factor third party equipment out of his decision, it has all come a long way from the film era.

On a different note, have you considered Pentax, Devster? It has a decent range of lenses, and its APSC cameras are the best on the market with very good value for features. Plus if you go back a generation in cameras, significant saving can be had (especially of the K-30 and the K-5/K-5 II). 

Only problem with Pentax is you wouldn't be able go get the Tamron 150-600mm, as it was not released in Pentax K-mount. 

Araminta
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I wasn't going to say anything, because I have the reputation of not having any knowledge (and I can hear the "experts" saying, why don't you shut up then?), but although I use the Sony SLT-A77V and a Sony 70-400mm G lens, I have to say, my husband (who never bothered posting any photos here) used several cameras for different purposes. Other than various Olympus gear, he was most happy with his Pentax K-5 ll S , his SMC Pentax DA 300mm F4EDCIFJ lens, also his Tamron Macro AF 18-250mm F/3.5-6.3,  and various Sigma lenses.

(he thought that the Pentax lenses were best with Pentax cameras)

You should never forget, both Canon and Nikon use vital parts in their cameras made by Sonywink

M-L

sparrow
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Even though I shoot Nikon when people ask me what brand they should buy for bird photography I usually say Canon mainly because of the sutable lenses at realistic prices ,and I agree with others here glass is everything ,It doesn't matter whether you use Canon or Nikon what is more important is what lens you put on it ,I have owned and used many third party lenses and some of the short one are really good but when it comes to the longer lenses I have always been disappointed with the results ,the only exception is an old sigma 300f4  that I got for peanuts on ebay but this was more of a fluke and I have seen some others that are real shockers.

And as for SD cards I use Sandisk extreme 45mb's in 16G and 32G in my D7000 and so far no isues filling the buffer just make sure your camera will take the write speed .

Most pro level cameras have always used  CF cards and IMO these are far superior to SD cards .

Canonguy
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Am I a Canon snob? You bet I am. No, I don't work for them either.

I may be overly critical, but at the end of the day we all get what we pay for don't we? Don't expect Mercedes performance by driving a Kia is all I am saying.

I am sure most people will be more than happy with anything other than a crap kit zoom lens at the end of the day. Those that want to spend more or are passionate enough will ALL go to super telephotos by either Canon or Nikon and WILL spend the bucks. It's a matter of prioirities in people's lives. Anyone with a job can afford to spend 5-10 grand on a lens if they really want to that bad. They always find a way. In any case, the EF 400/5.6L USM from Canon is a super telephoto for under 2k, so it won't break anybody's bank and in my opinion will outperform any super zoom by a third-party manufacturer. Instead of risking a lower performing lens, people can always take a few extra steps to get a bigger image in the viewfinder.

People want top performance from cheap ("more" affordable is what I mean) and then realise it is not always possible.

I've used a Sigma 150-500, didn't like it at all. Used an old Tamron 200-400/5.6 zoom, crapola. Lucky neither were my lenses.

I've used plenty of Canon L glass and a 600/4VR Nikon and yes, they are just the cat's whiskers when compared to most other lenses.

Everyone has different priorities, so just go buy whatever you feel comfortable with both for use and for price Devster.

M-L, I won't go into any discussions with you.

Lachlan
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Araminta wrote:

I wasn't going to say anything, because I have the reputation of not having any knowledge (and I can hear the "experts" saying, why don't you shut up then?)

I think your imput is important Araminta. You take lovely photos with your camera and post them. That makes what you have to say entirely more valid than anything I could say, as I rarely post any photos to back my opinions up.

Canonguy, I disagree with your absolutes. 

Devster
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Hey thanks for all the input guys, I really appreciate you taking the time out to help.

It is a lot to digest and I don't want to start any this model is better wars.

The most valuable things I have taken from hear is 1. pick the best lense you can afford first and then choose the body. (I would have done it the other way around so thats great advice.)

2. second hand is a good way to get better equipment at a lower price. Also great advice and now looking at second hand as you also tend to get a bit more with it.

As far as what I am looking at, I think I will go with the 400 f5.6l prime lens. From the research I did online on other sites, you tube etc it seems to be the best value for money. While I was keen on the Tamron 150mm-600mm because of the focal length, the research I did indicated that while quiet and good value for money, it doesn't take as sharp a photos as the prime and doesn't perform as well in low light situations.

I haven't decided on a body yet. I do like the Canon EOS 7D & I think it would compliment the 400 f5.6l prime lense.

Anyway, I still have to sell my car put am chomping at the bit tp get a better camera with sharper pictures and a better focal length. I went to Walkabout Creek and as it was low light, all my pictures were either blurry or pixilated. Very frustrated angry

Thanks again for all your input and I will keep you updated.

Cheers Devster

Lachlan
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One thing you could do if you are having trouble making a decision is hire a camera and lens for a weekend. I haven't done it, so I don't know where you would go to or how expensive it might be. Don't give up on the Tamron yet, here's a rather toung in cheek review of it:

http://photographylife.com/my-one-night-stand-with-the-tamron-150-600mm

If you're looking at getting the Canon 7D, it might be worthwhile waiting until Photokina passes next month. It's one of the major camera industry tradeshows (held in Frankfurt in Germany), and quite frequently features new camera designs. As the 7D is a fairly old (but still capable; realistically, most modern cameras are pretty similar) at 5 years, it could be due for a replacement. Then, either you can get the replacement, or you can get a 7D for a better price as everyone offloads theirs. 

The problem with camera gear is that many people go through an in depth research process to decide on their gear... Much like you're doing. Hence the feeling that our camera is THE camera. I spent about three or four months agonising over which camera to get... 

Although, compared to some debates I've seen, BiBy is pretty good and neutral. Sometimes, the fanboys degenerate into flamewars. sad

Araminta
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Yea, Photokina, my husband used to go there every yearyes

M-L

Reflex
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Lachlan wrote:

 I spent about three or four months agonising over which camera to get... 

Lachlan, I need to ask. What did you buy in the end?

Samford Valley Qld.

Devster
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Spoke to a photo guy today and he gave the Tamron a big wrap. Also showed me the Canon EOS 70D (Me like).

Ah decisions, decsions.

Lachlan
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Reflex, I ended up getting a Pentax K-5 II and a DA* 300mm f4 lens to go with it for birding. It suited my needs, and backcompatibility with some of my Dad's lenses from the 70s and 80s (and even further to M42 mount- it's been around since 1949) was a bonus. It's nice to be able to go into a second hand shop and buy a functional camera lens for $10. smiley But it was still touch and go there for a while; I almost bought Canon for the 400mm lens. My problem is I've got a weak right wrist from breaking it once, so can't handhold the Sigma superzooms very well. I didn't like Nikon's price and can't afford (or justify) the longer supertelephotos from Canon. So that left either the Canon 400mm or Pentax with the 300mm prime, which was the real sticking point.

Now I've been sucked into the neverending pit of camera gear and am eying off Pentax's new 1.4x TC to turn my 300mm into 450mm. But it costs a bit more than I can really justify, so no TC yetsad

Araminta
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That's the same combination my husband used, he was most happy with it. He started with the K-7, then the K-5, and last one was the Pentax K-5 ll S. He used the Pentax DA 300mm and was most happy with it. He also used a Sigma 10-20mm and a Tamron Macro 18-250mm. My husband got great results using the Pentax. Great compliment to Pentax coming from a Sony Girlwink

M-L

Reflex
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Thanks Lachlan.

It starts off being all about affordability although once you get hooked it starts to get easier to justify the more expensive equipment. I found myself saying to someone," I know blokes at work with $20,000+ motorbikes that only ride them six times a year" so I could (one day ) justify a 600mm Canon Lens. smiley

Samford Valley Qld.

Lachlan
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I really like it too Araminta; it's a good combination. Far outclasses my capabilities anyway!

Hmmmmm, following that logic Reflex; if the government don't introduce their tertiary education reforms, I'll save on HECS in the future. So that means that I can buy a supertelephoto AND a teleconverter now!

I like it! yes

Off to ebay to look for elusive listings of film era Pentax supertelephoto glass! smiley

Rick N
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At the ANZANG nature photographer exhibitions of the last few years the overwhelming majority of winning entrants,probably 99%ish,

have been from Canon & Nikon, with Canon being clearly the most popular gear.

Are all of these incredibly skilful photographers just dupes of the Canon,Nikon duoploly, blindly following the marketing blah,blah?

I don't think so.

Devster
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Well I did it. I purchased a Tamron 150mm-600mm. Haven't used it yet as I only got it late this afternoon. Very hard to find somewhere that had them as they are very popular.

I have been looking at cameras on Ebay and I found a Canon EOS 70D for $1339 which included a 18mm-135mm lense.

I was looking at getting it until someone pointed out it only had a 1 year warranty when Canon in Australia give a 2 year warranty.

Apparently it is a "Grey" import camera or something like that, meaning its not guarenteed to be 100% new (not that they tell you that)

I was told someone got one of these "grey" imports and the camera had been previously used and although was sold as new was actually a refurbished one.

I'm losing confidence on big ticket stuff like this online.

It may be ok for camera bags etc but not for big ticket items.

Cheers Devster

sparrow
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Congratulations Your half way there , just one more thing I have been reading a few reviews on the Tamron and the ones giving it the biggest rap seem to be using it on full frame cameras , just a thought ,Its always fun buying new gear and trying it out what ever camera you decide on I look forward to seeing some of your photos.

Devster
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Thanks Sparrow.

I spoke to a camera enthusiast who gave me these words. He said when you go to buy your first motorcycle, the people who have been riding motorcycles for years tell you to go bigger & faster as its better. While they are right, they have learnt on the smaller ones first to gain the confidence and expeience to then proceed onto the bigger ones.

I'm going to learn on a smaller one fist then when I am ready go to the bigger one.

Cheers 

Devster

rawshorty
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If you have not got a camera yet you might want to consider a Canon 1Diii, it is an older camera but since i got one my 7D just collects dust now.

There is one on Ebay for $960 buy it now.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Canon-EOS-1D-Mark-III-10-1-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-Black-Body-Only-Excellent-/251630025964?pt=AU_Digital_Cameras&hash=item3a96517cec&_uhb=1

Shorty......Canon gear

Canberra

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