Which Robin?

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Bridges
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Which Robin?

Photo taken on Bruny Island.  I find it very confusing - is it an immmature male, female and what variety.  Thanks.

Beef
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Dusky Robin perhaps?

Annie W
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Did you get a look at the breast at all Bridges?  I don't think it is a Dusky for a couple of reasons, nor a Female Pink Robin, which leaves either a Flame or Scarlet.  My money is on a female Scarlet Robin as they have a more distinct whitish ring around the eye.

NW Tasmania

Annie W
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I can try to find a couple of dorsal (back) type views for you to compare if you would like, but certain it is neither a Dusky or a female Pink Robin..

NW Tasmania

Woko
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Bruny Island would be outside a Flame Robins' range I think. 

Annie W
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All four of the species of Robin in Tas are found on Bruny Island smiley.  Such a marvellous array of birdies there, sure hoping a planned trip there for us later in the year doesn't get de-railed like it did last year!

http://www.bien.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=14&Itemid=37

http://www.bien.org.au/images/stories/%20brunyis_birdlist.pdf

NW Tasmania

Woko
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Ah! And I thought Bruny Island was part of Queensland! Shows the importance of identifying clearly where observations are made - especially when dealing with the unitiated like me. 

So, I'm inclined to think that's a female Flame Robin. 

Bridges
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Thank you all.  I agree Woko, nothing more annoying than getting only half a bit of information.  Sorry about that!  AnnieJ I don't remember breast colour - taken a little while ago when I was even more ignorant than I am now!  When I look at the photo closely it seems to have a reddish tinge on the white.  Maybe just the light?  But it doesn't show on the photo here.

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Annie W
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Bridges wrote:

Thank you all.  I agree Woko, nothing more annoying than getting only half a bit of information.  Sorry about that!  AnnieJ I don't remember breast colour - taken a little while ago when I was even more ignorant than I am now!  When I look at the photo closely it seems to have a reddish tinge on the white.  Maybe just the light?  But it doesn't show on the photo here.

No worries Bridges smiley.  I'm kind of leaning more towards a Scarlet Robin, based on the prominent white wing bars and white spot above the beak.  The Flame is described as having a buff spot above the beak, and the white bars on wings are less prominent.  Not 100% sure though, and I am happy to be corrected - to be honest I have not seen (or photographed) as many female Flame Robins as female Scarlets, they always seem to elude me the little devils laugh

NW Tasmania

Bridges
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Thanks AnnieJ.  Have looked at photos of female Scarlet Robins with your observations in mind.  The photo will now be labelled as such!

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Rick N
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Bridges, have seen a few Scarlets over Xmas, hope you dont mind me posting these couple of shots taken in much the same orientation, which match yours pretty closely.

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The two back photos are certainly very similar Rick.  I can see a tiny bit of red on yours, which unfortunately I didn't get.  The white round the eye is not quite so distinct but the white above the beak (not too good on the proper names) is quite clear.  Many thanks.

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