P. simplex? rufipennis?

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trevorj
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P. simplex? rufipennis?

Hi all,
Only managed this one shot high up and in the shade, I think it is a Grey Whistler, Pachycephala simplex but wonder if the russet feathers indicate possibly being subspecies rufipennis Any ideas?

trevorj
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Sorry, should have mentioned taken in the North Burnett inland from Bundaberg. Qld.

stevehapp
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Have you thought about a female or immature Rufous Whistler?
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Pachycephala rufiventris
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cheers,
steve

ed
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maybe (and I'm going with) an imm. Golden, (pectoralis)...is that a very slight yellow wash around the belly/vent?

Ed Townsville NQ

stevehapp
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yep, ed,
you are right about the yellowish vent.
golden is a possible..

trevorj
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Thanks for the input guys. From my research Grey Whistlers all have yellow to a greater or lesser degree on the underbelly. Stevehapp, no its definitely not a rufous female or immature as they both have striped undersides even when very young. This bird appears to be at the least a sub adult or full grown. Hopefully I will get a chance at a better shot of it sometime.

stevehapp
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oh, i forgot to ask.
What is the location of the bird?
that may help.
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p.s. i think you are right about the rufous. just throwing possibilities out there.. doh!
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cheers,
steve

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