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rawshorty
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Brown Falcon

Pretty sure i have got it right but would like confirmation.

Not a great pic but i hope good enough for I.D. Canberra today.

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Araminta
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I would say the same. I would also say, it's a great photoyes

M-L

Owen1
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Swamp Harrier here.

Cheers, Owen.

SteveM
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Good one Owen. I'll 2nd your Swamp Harrier.

rawshorty
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Thanks everyone, it seems Owen and Steve are confident of Swamp Harrier. I have read of a recent sighting of a Swamp Harrier were i took this pic. Another one for my listsmiley (130)

Shorty......Canon gear

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pacman
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Not sure where you took this pic but last Sunday 9/6 just as I got onto Monaro Hway from Hindmarsh Drive heading north towards Canberra Ave and further a Swamp Harrier (I believe) came across from the east towards the spare land on the west of Hway  

Peter

rawshorty
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I got it at Jerrabomberra Wetlands, Peter. So very close to your sighting.

I'm just about to go there and have another look.

Shorty......Canon gear

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kathiemt
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Great shot. Well done.

Kathiemt
Selby, Victoria
 

dna1972
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Without seeing a rump from above (white in Swamp Harrier) I would tentatively say Swamp Harrier (female too, as it is a very dark looking bird). Falcons don't have such distinct fingered primaries at all. IT's definitely a hawk of some kind. (Harriers are hawks technically).



 

saturnv78
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Hi guys, I would question that this is a harrier as it clearly has 6 primary feather "fingers" harriers have five, what do you guys think?

SteveM
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An old one, both worth another look. Could it be a dark-morph Little Eagle (appears to have heavily feathered legs)? 

I can't remember why I originally thought Swamp Harrier & I'm away from home at the moment without any field guides, so maybe look at it again when I get home.

Canonguy
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SteveM wrote:

An old one, both worth another look. Could it be a dark-morph Little Eagle (appears to have heavily feathered legs)?

I can't remember why I originally thought Swamp Harrier & I'm away from home at the moment without any field guides, so maybe look at it again when I get home.

Hi Steve

Without knowing you I've always seen that your raptor ID skills are darn great. I actually looked at this shot again yesterday and that was what went through my mind, mostly due to the bars along the back half of the wings and the tail and the size compared to the magpie. The other thing it reminded me of is that about one year ago, I did photograph this same scenario with a light morph Little Eagle being annoyed by two magpies and the size of the raptor does seem to fit LE more than Swamp Harrier. I will dig that photo out and compare, but it is still difficult to tell. Maybe if we could see a high-res crop tight around the legs it would be helpful.

cheers mate

rawshorty
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Canonguy wrote:

 Maybe if we could see a high-res crop tight around the legs it would be helpful.

cheers mate

The pic i posted is already a very heavy crop and a lot of tweaking in Lightroom so i can't help with a crop on the legs, but i can say that a few weeks after this shot i got closer shots of both light and dark morph in the same spot and i am 99% sure this is the dark Morph Little Eagle.

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SteveM
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Sorry Shorty, I think I was too hasty with my original ID & I'm now with you. I could be wrong again, but I can't see any reason why it's not a Little Eagle. 

Besides the obvious that saturnv78 already mentioned, i.e. the 6 primary fingers, I think (thou not 100% sure) that the fine/narrow bars on the tail is also an indicator for Little Eagle & not Harrier, & perhaps also the apparent fat/solid body?.

Not sure what my original thinking was for Swamp Harrier, but I think I did actually consider Little Eagle at the time & mistakingly ruled it out on the basis that I was expecting the secondaries to be darker & contrast more with the inner primaries.  

Have we got any more votes for Little Eagle, or thoughts otherwise?

Thanks to saturnv78 for bringing this one back for discussion, & thanks to Canonguy for your kind words.

Owen1
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I was also too hasty, it is in fact a dark morph Little Eagle.

Cheers, Owen.

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