BOP ID please

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Thu, 04/09/2014 - 12:11

donnanags

BOP ID please

I took this, this morning through my living room window, unfortunately when I went to get a better shot outside it flew off. It was taken near Cambelltown. Is anyone able to help with the ID.

Regards

Donna

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 12:46

timrp

Looks like a Collared Sparrowhawk because of its skinny legs.

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 13:08

Devster

I agree with collard Sparrowhawk

Devster

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 17:53

lorne.johnson@d...

It looks the size of a Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike, so I'd say sparrowhawk too. LJ

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 19:50

rawshorty

It is either a Brown Goshawk or Collard Sparrowhawk. The more i research them the more confused i get.

I would lean towards CS as they seem to hunt in confined areas, where the BG uses open country (seems to be the most consistant id )

Shorty......Canon gear

Canberra

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Thu, 04/09/2014 - 19:57

lorne.johnson@d...

Shorty,

Brown Goshawks and Collared Sparrowhawks both hunt in closed and open forest. Tail length and shape, the length of talons and overall size are distinguisihing points. CSs are somewhat smaller than BGs. Always compare the bird to a Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike, as I mention above.

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 20:11

rawshorty

lorne.johnson@dow.catholic.edu.au wrote:

Shorty,
Brown Goshawks and Collared Sparrowhawks both hunt in closed and open forest. Tail length and shape, the length of talons and overall size are distinguisihing points. CSs are somewhat smaller than BGs. Always compare the bird to a Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike, as I mention above.
LJ

Thanks, Lorne. But as i said the more i look into it the more confused i get. There are so many different ideas from people.

I sometimes wonder if they are the same bird.

As for size the female CS and male gs are similar size?

Shorty......Canon gear

Canberra

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Thu, 04/09/2014 - 20:33

donnanags

Thank you all very much for your replies. It was about the size of the Black Faced cuckoo shrike.

regards

Donna

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 20:43

lorne.johnson@d...

Donna,

I teach at Narellan. I've seen Brown and Grey Goshawks there occassionally.

Shorty... it's confusing when a CS is perched... when a CS flies, you know it is a CS due to size and feel and jizz... saying that, I've seen very few CSs since beginning birding in the 80s!

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 21:05

#10

rawshorty

lorne.johnson@dow.catholic.edu.au wrote:

Donna,
I teach at Narellan. I've seen Brown and Grey Goshawks there occassionally.
Shorty... it's confusing when a CS is perched... when a CS flies, you know it is a CS due to size and feel and jizz... saying that, I've seen very few CSs since beginning birding in the 80s!
LJ

Thanks for the info, Lorne.

I would be interested in your opinion on these (sorry Donna for the thread takeover)

Shorty......Canon gear

Canberra

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Thu, 04/09/2014 - 21:30

#11

donnanags

No worries Shorty, great photos by the way.

Lorne this is the first time that I have seen a CS and it was quite a surprise to see it sitting in our jacaranda tree in our suburban backyard. I have seen a Grey Goshawk White Morph at Mount Annan Botanical Gardens last year.

regards

Donna

Thu, 04/09/2014 - 21:51

#12

timrp

At my house in St Andrews an immature Brown Goshawk actually came into our yard, probably trying to hunt my sisters rabbit.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:17

#13

lorne.johnson@d...

Shorty,

Due to the lack of a heavy brow on this bird, I reckon it's a Collared Sparrowhawk: this bird doesn't have a fierce look; Brown Goshawks do. The tail tip is a bit weathered, so hard to make absolutely postive id based on square v rounded tail.

Lorne