Please help me ID these 2 birds

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GColmer
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Please help me ID these 2 birds

These photos were taken in Davistown on the NSW Central Coast. They are both small birds perched in mangrove trees. The first I have no clue, and the second looks like a Brown Thornbill but I'm not sure. Thanks for your help.

Gelmir
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My first thought of the top one is a juv Mistletoebird. But I'm not 100% sure of that, having only seen an juv bird only once before and it's bill wasn't as bright as that one.
The second bird looks like a Brown Thornbill.

GColmer
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Thanks Gelmir, I believe you are correct about the juvenile Mistletoebird. It was the bill colour that threw me.

bushanwater
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Yep, I'd agree with that

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Windhover
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FYI I have been fortunate to observe nesting Mistletoebirds for the past two summers and last year I got a few images of the juveniles on the day they fledged.

Here is one.
http://amatteroflight.com/gallery2/d/331-3/Mistletoebird_1336.jpg

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