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Night Parrot
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Nest boxes

Interesting suburbanite on Gardening Australia this week who threw a nest box together using old fence palings and stuck it up in a tree, with the result that owls moved in within just a few weeks. He either got the accommodation just right or there is a severe shortgae of bird rental space. Probably both are true. It might be very informative to have records of the types of accommodation that are taken up and by what species, so perhaps whenever a forum member has success in attracting birds to their nest boxes, they could provide a photo or description on this site. Just a suggestion.

Woko
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Good idea, Night Parrot. I believe there have been varying levels of success with nest boxes. Starlings, house sparrows, European honey bees & other feral creatures compete for breeding space with native creatures such as birds, bats & possums & need to be removed if they take up residence. The size, shape, position & size of hole are all important factors. For posters interested in erecting bird boxes check out on this site Creating Places > Your Garden: How to make it safe > Other Garden Features > Nest boxes.

timmo
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Yeah I saw that too NightParrot. It inspired me to do more boxes, although my current nestbox hasn't yet had success.

I made one designed for the Pale-Headed Rosellas we get around here, and it has been checked out a bit, but no action as yet. I need to get up and check out the state of it actually.

It has also been the focus of a few determined possums trying to enlarge the hole sufficiently to get in. I may have to make a possum box as well, and put it somewhere else in the yard. If so it would probably be for the few ringtails we see around here, as brushies are much more able to fend for themselves I expect.

Cheers
Tim
Brisbane

al
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I've been making nest boxes for cavity-nesting species for more then 60 years.

In the past I have used all sorts of second hand materials- hollow logs, terracotta pipes, small dog kennells etc.

Now I mostly use radiata pine.

Here are just a few photos of the critters who use them:

Sugar Glider:

[Brush-tailed Phascogale:

Micro Bat:

White-throated Treecreeper:

Cheers,

al

Qyn
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Al, they are fantastic results. yes

Alison
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al
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Thanks Alison,

I'll put up some more pics as soon as I have figured out how to make them a little bigger on here.

Cheers,

al

Edited 07/09/12 to resize photos.

Woko
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Well done, Al. Do you have trouble with feral species occupying your nest boxes?

al
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Yes I do Woko, but only with feral bees occasionally invading one of the boxes.

Feathertail Glider:

Agile Antechinus:

Cheers,

al

timmo
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That's awesome, al. What a great collection of native animals.

I recently responded to a facebook request about glider monitoring across southern brisbane, and will be out checking out the residents of glider nest boxes in the area at the end of the month.

It should be really interesting.

Cheers
Tim
Brisbane

Araminta
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What a "HERO" you are al. !!!!  I wish I had some of those boxes.

M-L

Woko
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Shots to lift the spirits, Al. Thanks.

What do you do about feral bee infestations? Tell them to buzz off or what?

Night Parrot
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Would you like a nest box Araminta? I could make you one but I am in Qld and the last nest box I posted south cost more to send than the box was worth. (I tend to go a bit overboard with my constructions). You live around Gembrook? I have a skin blister in Emerald and I could leave it with her for you to pick up. Trouble is I don't know when I will be in Melb next. Maybe end of year, maybe in the new year.

Araminta
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O, that would be wonderful, yes, I live in Gembrook. Just send me a message when you come, I'll be there in minutes.

(what's a skin blister? LOL)

M-L

jfiess78
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I think skin blister is rhyming slang for sister????wink

Araminta
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enlightenedenlightenedyes

M-L

al
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Thanks Guys,

Tim, good luck with your glider survey. Don't forget your camera :) Would love to see what you find.

M-L, You made this old man blush.. you can buy nest boxes here:

http://www.latrobe.edu.au/wildlife/nursery/nestboxes/natives

They make the best and cheapest boxes in Victoria.

Don't know how big your property is but it's always best to put up several boxes.

Woko, I monitor my boxes regularly. When bees invade one of the boxes I seal off the entrance after dark

when all the bees are inside. Then I take the box down and burn it.

As I put my boxes up in clusters of about six, a short distance apart, the animals still have other boxes to go into to hide from predators.

Nankeen Kestrel:

Cheers,

al

Araminta
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Those photos are fantastic. Hope I made you blush again.

I know I can buy boxes, I just loved yours.wink, but I will have a look at your link.

M-L

Night Parrot
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That LaTrobe Uni site is very interesting Al. Do you know what their excluder is made from? Balsa wood perhaps. Maybe I will ask them. How ingenious! Do you use these, or myna baffles? If not, how do you keep out mynas?

al
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Night Parrot,

I only use my own boxes but have helped the Hanging Rock park ranger with installing and monitoring La Trobe nest boxes.

The parrot boxes have thin pieces of wood partially covering the entrance. You would have to cover up the entrance again after the parrots have finished nesting.

Never had a problem with mynas or starlings.

Cheers,

al

Woko
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A very thorough method of managing feral bees, al. Your nest boxes seem to be doing their bit to conserve the wildlife in your area. Maaaarvellous!

Night Parrot
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Feral though the bees may be, I am not sure I could bring myself to murder them en masse like that. Aren't we short of bees? And aren't they vital for pollination of fruit trees and our veggies? I guess in the case of nest boxes, one must choose between the bees and the birds. Personally I think I would build another nest box.

Woko
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Interesting  one Nightparrot. Your post has made me wonder what the early white settlers did for fruit & vegetables before European honey bees came to Australia. Did the native bees pollinate the introduced fruit & vegetables? Or did the settlers use native bush tucker? Or did they rely on imports? Or a combination of both? Or did they bring honey bees with them on the First Fleet to ensure there would be First Crops?

I can't help thinking that some human-induced disturbance to the environment is at the root of the European honey bee problem in the nothern hemisphere. What little I've read on the topic suggests this is the case. Which shows how careful we need to be when we mess with the environment. However, I vaguely recall there has been some research into the part native bees might play in pollination of our food crops.  

Should our European honey bees become threatened & native bees don't do the pollination honours then we'll be faced with a big problem since we've made ourselves dependent on the European honey bees for much of our food production.  But while our own honey bee populations aren't under threat I'd suggest we be careful with our environment so they don't become so while simultaneously protecting our vanishing native bee, bird & mammal populations. This could well mean adopting al's approach to feral bees in nest boxes. We might also want to continue research into native bees & pollination so that we might have a Plan B.

Mountainmaid65
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Wow Al! Those boxes are awesome! I have 2 boxes in my backyard which were here when we purchased the place 6 years ago & both have been occupied by brushtail possums & their babies every year. Every now & then i see a ringtail quietly moving along the fence but they certainly are a lot more shy than the brushtails.

We are looking to place some other's boxes around with smaller holes etc to suit gliders & birds & your pictures are definately an inspiration! We have quite a large glider population around there in Faulconbridge.

I remember when i first moved here & hearing this Yap yap yap at night & we went out  thinking a puppy was outside in the dark...hahaha how silly were we when we spotted a glider & googled it to find out they Yap!!!!

Would be amazing to be lucky enough to have an owl move in! I really do love all the night creatures :)

Thanks for sharing,

Donna

lpankhurst1
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Was wondering whether anyone can advise on how long it may take for next boxes to be occupied ...

We have a bird bath and food stand where Rosellas and King Parrots, eat and drink daily.

Then we installed three brand 'new houses' and are waiting for birds or possums to move in ...

However, there is an existing small box high up in an old pine tree, which already has a resident possum in it.

So I am hoping that the beautiful birds who are eating and drinking in the garden will want to nest in the garden too : )

I would also like to attract smaller birds, and will investigate smaller habitats for them!?

We will next be planting gravilleas, warratahs, and so on, in the hopes of attracting nectar eating birds and others ...

Looking forward to hearing of any similar stories, successes or constructive advice : )

Linda

Night Parrot
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I would think not long at all depending on the nesting season for the birds you are trying to attract. The position of your nest box, its dimensions and the size of the entrance hole may also be a factor in the type of critter you eventually house. There is also the possibilty that a bat or small possum might take up residence without you knowing. There is a lot of information about nest boxes on this forum and I think its worth studying to get the best results for your efforts. You may want to try and avoid housing too many of the brushtail variety of possum because they eat away at gardens at night. And of course one must be vigilant to ensure feral birds don't take up residence. Good luck with your native plantings and nestings Linda.

Woko
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Hi Linda. All good information from Night Parrot.

The more indigenous vegetation you (& your neighbours) can plant the greater the variety of bird species & other native creatures you'll attract. Some butterfly species depend on native grasses so these can be included in your bird-attracting plantings because some bird species feed on butterfly larvae . Ensure that any grasses you plant are indigenous species because grasses can be invasive.

Some nest box builders include a hinged & tightly latched floor so that feral creatures (such as Common Starlings & Indian Mynas) & their nests can be removed should they take up residence.

You might want to use the search box at the top of this page to get information on artificial feeding of birds. There's a variety of opinions on this.

And good luck from me, too.

lpankhurst1
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Night Parrot, your feedback and support is so appreciated and pretty inspiring too : )

I will certainly look into planting native grasses, and be mindful of the artificial feeding scene.

And yes, we do want to start a vege garden and do not want to be stressed or in competition with the possums : )

Very useful, constructive feedback - THANK YOU

timmo
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I've certainly had birds investigating the (Rosella) nest boxes I put up within weeks, but unfortunately the ringtail possums moved in to both the original one and the replacement I put up for the birds. That's OK, ringtails are not too bad and less aggro than the brushtails, but I would really love some rosellas...

Cheers
Tim
Brisbane

darinnightowl
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well Al you have  done a lot better then me getting tenants in your boxes. Photos are just great !  Hope you dont mind looking at  one of mind. Just a small hollow log  i found.Black ants were the first to move in , a quick clean out and this Pink tongue lizard move in next .

See it!  Hear it!

Mid-North Coast NSW

Devster
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Oh I love Pink tongues. I have 3 of them myself.

I love the nest boxes. I did some work at a school as a chaplain and we made nest boxes with some special needs kids.

Sadly we ran out of time and didn't get a chance to put them up. (I still have them at home)

The area we were going to put them up in was cleared anyway so lucky we didn't.

I would love to make some more but made the last ones out of 9mm ply and then painted it.

I soon found out that ply is not such a good idea unless its marine ply.

Oh well you live & learn.

lpankhurst1
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Yes, the ferrals do worry me ... no residents have moved into the provided new homes yet : (

Maybe the paint on the boxes has deterred them!?

I too would love Rosellas or King Parrots to move in

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